The Talk Show: “Recorded in front of a live audience at Mezzanine in San Francisco, John Gruber is joined by Phil Schiller to discuss the news from WWDC: OS X 10.11 El Capitan, iOS 9, the new native app SDK for Apple Watch, Apple Music, and the 2004 American League Championship series.”

This is the bright side of the new Apple. They’re still secretive (which is good) but they’re opening up in many ways.